Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emiratis in the United Kingdom
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 21:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't think the subject of Emiratis in the United Kingdom meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines based on the lack of significant coverage of the topic. The article relies solely on a population figure from the census and a few statistics on student numbers. This doesn't constitute significant coverage in my book. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. —Cordless Larry (talk) 15:23, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. —Cordless Larry (talk) 15:23, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - It's supposed to be a stub. Also, why did you remove the 'community' section earlier a couple of days ago, without any explanation? Mar4d (talk) 04:01, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed it a month ago, and explained why in the edit summary. The sources you had used for that section weren't about Emiratis living in the UK. They were about visas for visitors (not immigrants) and about Emirati visitors feeling at home in London. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:12, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I also now realise that you breached copyright by copying part of one of the sources word-for-word. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Please point out which part is copied. Also, the above source clearly talks about expats - not visitors. Mar4d (talk) 07:40, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I have explained at Talk:Emiratis in the United Kingdom, and yet you continue to add the material, claiming in your edit summary that I have removed it without explanation. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:57, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for the clarification. I can see what you mean now and have removed most of it. However, please don't wipe out the whole section as some of the content does specifically directly relate to Emiratis in the UK. Mar4d (talk) 08:26, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I can see one sentence that should perhaps say, as I highlighted on the article's talk page, but we can continue to discuss that there. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:32, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I have added a source to clarify the UK being one of the most 'popular destinations' for Emirati expats - which, as you pointed out, was previously unsourced. Mar4d (talk) 09:37, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I can see one sentence that should perhaps say, as I highlighted on the article's talk page, but we can continue to discuss that there. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:32, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for the clarification. I can see what you mean now and have removed most of it. However, please don't wipe out the whole section as some of the content does specifically directly relate to Emiratis in the UK. Mar4d (talk) 08:26, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I have explained at Talk:Emiratis in the United Kingdom, and yet you continue to add the material, claiming in your edit summary that I have removed it without explanation. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:57, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Please point out which part is copied. Also, the above source clearly talks about expats - not visitors. Mar4d (talk) 07:40, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:45, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 06:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - The sourced coverage is not significantly focused on the topic at hand. The sources demonstrate that Emiratis are in the UK, and that they are, I don't know, doing things, but I don't see any independent coverage of the actual topic. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 09:42, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - There are many other articles on Wikipedia of a similar nature and their existence may be of encyclopedic value to some readers. Aeonx (talk) 11:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep
Merge- into both Emirati people and List of Emiratis and spin off if needed. The "(fish out of water) in the (name of country)" article is a standard type Wikipedia article, but you first need to build up the parent articles with text before you can spin a topic off of the parent. As for a tit-for-tat article, see Britons in the United Arab Emirates. Also see, Emirati American and United Arab Emirati detainees at Guantanamo Bay. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed to keep since my merge position was more of an editorial decision rather than a deletion decision. Keep since it is there is enough source material to maintain the article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:04, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm aware that other similar and equivalent articles exist, but the question here is whether the topic of this specific article is notable. Given the lack of significant coverage, I don't think it is. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.